Fisk: The crime scene photographer's flash picked up this bullet casing. It was lodged between the body and the device. Hoffman: Run it for prints. [Strahm and Perez enter] Lindsey Perez: The lock was open. She couldn't get out. Hoffman: It was constructed for her exectution. Betrayed the rules. Lindsey Perez: Not a Jigsaw trap then. Hoffman: No. Amanda Young, the accomplice-- Peter Strahm: This wasn't done by Amanda Young. Detective Hoffman: Excuse me? Peter Strahm: Detective Kerry weighed aproximately 130 lbs. Amanda Young's arrest report has her at 107. She couldn't get her up there alone. Detective Hoffman: John Kramer was-- Peter Strahm: A bedridden cancer patient? He's brains, not brawn. Hoffman: He was also an engineer. He could have rigged pulleys-- Strahm: Or someone else could have helped him. Hoffman: Special agent, if you're here for any other reason than just to assist -- Peter Strahm: We're here to help find who your department couldn't, detective: the one helping Jigsaw and Amanda Young.

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