Q: While we already sort of know the character you play, could you talk about who you play in the film?
Gugino: Yes, so I play Dr. Gorsky and Madame Gorsky, as her alternate personality is. So you know there are sort of dual worlds going on, right? So in the real world, it’s 1960’s Lennox House psychiatric institute, and I’m a psychiatrist who is very Freudian in her ways. Not a big fan of the lobotomy. She’s Polish, so…as I was doing some research into the character, I found out that, in Russia, lobotomies were made illegal in 1950, so I think that, in her perspective, that she’s come over to sort of do the more, kind of progressive therapy with music and regression and dealing with kind of probably for better or worse, Freud, what he kind of discovered in the later years has been updated and she’s not there yet. And I work with Oscar’s character who is sort of the…what do you consider your incarnation in that world? Because he’s more than…he’s kind of become something different since you…
Oscar Isaac: Yeah, for me, I do see it as…the character I’m playing is Blue Jones, who is an orderly at this asylum. And I think he’s someone who’s generally been pretty powerless in his life. And so he uses this position at this kind of unorganized, slightly chaotic old asylum to have a position of power. And so I think he kind of hordes information and he collects things and he has a slightly OCD thing about him. And he becomes like the don of the institution to a certain extent, and I think that, we’ve talked about that perhaps even he may have helped Dr. Gorsky get a position there.
Gugino: Or some sort of…yeah.
Isaac: Maybe like a visa thing or…
Gugino: She’s an immigrant. There are so many levels of this story that we’re discovering, but also that, when audiences see it, I’m sure there will be many different interpretations, but it definitely seems as if there’s been…they’ve worked together for a period of time and there’s some sort of a…you know, they come from very different places, but there’s been some sort of…
Isaac: So then in the fantasy world, I know literally, I guess, it’s Baby Doll’s imagination creating this world, but for me, I kind of imagined it as what the orderly imagines or wishes he was, which is this respected charismatic, you know…
Gugino: And Madame Gorsky definitely also is, again, it seems as if what is in Baby Doll’s fantasy is a heightened version of what she observes initially. Interestingly enough, in both worlds I use music, as a psychiatrist and also as a dominatrix/choreographer, slash Madame. [laughs] Never thought I’d say that! That that’s what I’m playing. In the brothel. So yeah, I’ve never done anything like this so it’s fascinating. It’s been really, it’s sort of endlessly…which I know we talked about somewhat with Watchmen as well, but it’s endlessly…you can keep digging deeper and deeper and finding more and more stuff.
Oscar Isaac: Yeah, for me, I do see it as…the character I’m playing is Blue Jones, who is an orderly at this asylum. And I think he’s someone who’s generally been pretty powerless in his life. And so he uses this position at this kind of unorganized, slightly chaotic old asylum to have a position of power. And so I think he kind of hordes information and he collects things and he has a slightly OCD thing about him. And he becomes like the don of the institution to a certain extent, and I think that, we’ve talked about that perhaps even he may have helped Dr. Gorsky get a position there.
Gugino: Or some sort of…yeah.
Isaac: Maybe like a visa thing or…
Gugino: She’s an immigrant. There are so many levels of this story that we’re discovering, but also that, when audiences see it, I’m sure there will be many different interpretations, but it definitely seems as if there’s been…they’ve worked together for a period of time and there’s some sort of a…you know, they come from very different places, but there’s been some sort of…
Isaac: So then in the fantasy world, I know literally, I guess, it’s Baby Doll’s imagination creating this world, but for me, I kind of imagined it as what the orderly imagines or wishes he was, which is this respected charismatic, you know…
Gugino: And Madame Gorsky definitely also is, again, it seems as if what is in Baby Doll’s fantasy is a heightened version of what she observes initially. Interestingly enough, in both worlds I use music, as a psychiatrist and also as a dominatrix/choreographer, slash Madame. [laughs] Never thought I’d say that! That that’s what I’m playing. In the brothel. So yeah, I’ve never done anything like this so it’s fascinating. It’s been really, it’s sort of endlessly…which I know we talked about somewhat with Watchmen as well, but it’s endlessly…you can keep digging deeper and deeper and finding more and more stuff.
Q : While we already sort of know the character you play, could you talk about who you play in the film?
Gugino : Yes, so I play Dr. Gorsky and Madame Gorsky, as her alternate personality is. So you know there are sort of dual worlds going on, right? So in the real world, it’s 1960’s Lennox House psychiatric institute, and I’m a psychiatrist who is very Freudian in her ways. Not a big fan of the lobotomy. She’s Polish, so…as I was doing some research into the character, I found out that, in Russia, lobotomies were made illegal in 1950, so I think that, in her perspective, that she’s come over to sort of do the more, kind of progressive therapy with music and regression and dealing with kind of probably for better or worse, Freud, what he kind of discovered in the later years has been updated and she’s not there yet. And I work with Oscar’s character who is sort of the…what do you consider your incarnation in that world? Because he’s more than…he’s kind of become something different since you…
Oscar Isaac : Yeah, for me, I do see it as…the character I’m playing is Blue Jones, who is an orderly at this asylum. And I think he’s someone who’s generally been pretty powerless in his life. And so he uses this position at this kind of unorganized, slightly chaotic old asylum to have a position of power. And so I think he kind of hordes information and he collects things and he has a slightly OCD thing about him. And he becomes like the don of the institution to a certain extent, and I think that, we’ve talked about that perhaps even he may have helped Dr. Gorsky get a position there.
Gugino : Or some sort of…yeah.
Isaac : Maybe like a visa thing or…
Gugino : She’s an immigrant. There are so many levels of this story that we’re discovering, but also that, when audiences see it, I’m sure there will be many different interpretations, but it definitely seems as if there’s been…they’ve worked together for a period of time and there’s some sort of a…you know, they come from very different places, but there’s been some sort of…
Isaac : So then in the fantasy world, I know literally, I guess, it’s Baby Doll’s imagination creating this world, but for me, I kind of imagined it as what the orderly imagines or wishes he was, which is this respected charismatic, you know…
Gugino : And Madame Gorsky definitely also is, again, it seems as if what is in Baby Doll’s fantasy is a heightened version of what she observes initially. Interestingly enough, in both worlds I use music, as a psychiatrist and also as a dominatrix/choreographer, slash Madame. [laughs] Never thought I’d say that! That that’s what I’m playing. In the brothel. So yeah, I’ve never done anything like this so it’s fascinating. It’s been really, it’s sort of endlessly…which I know we talked about somewhat with Watchmen as well, but it’s endlessly…you can keep digging deeper and deeper and finding more and more stuff.
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